- Nick "the Waymanite" Sayers
- From Nick's Facebook page:
- "Yeah thanx guys, some of you know the full
story, yeah well, can't say I didn't try to get a resolve. Basically I have
had nothing against the church for 12 years and would have gone back if change
happened, Haagenson has been caught out saying racist jokes, lied about it,
lie about me, Trav and Wendy, and 1000 other things... he has done so much
harm. He won't ever admit fault etc... So Al Vic, Trav Wen, Me, Kurtis, Stu
Anne, Col Tracy are all leaving. Pretty sad. There will be about 15 left.
Under Ronnie it was 70-80+ now 15. Just do the math!"
- For now, at least, Nick the Waymanite Sayers,
of Cracked Pots fame, has left his Potter's House church in Lismore. He
apparently left shouting out to the pastor that the lack of growth was the
pastor's fault, not the church's.
Nick's friend, Kev the Rev, posted on Cracked Pots, stating that he is
disappointed in Nick's behaviour and is praying for Nick's repentance.
Nick has stated that he is just listening to recorded sermons and waiting for
a change to take place. Nick sounds confident that such a change is
forthcoming, and seems to lean towards a pastoral change. Nick has blamed the
current pastor of his church for the shrinking of the Lismore Potter's House,
stating that attendance has gone from as high as 80 people to recently as low
as 25. (Considering that the Lismore Potter's House is over 20 years old,
neither figure is impressive.)
Nick has made it clear that he is not leaving the fellowship, but simply
waiting for some changes to take place. Perhaps he has an inside scoop as to
what Waymanchrist and his leaders have planned for the Lismore church.
- Lismore Potter's House
- The Lismore Potter's House is the latest
Church to been detonated over the David Vicary saga. It appears that Greg
Haagensen is fighting for his life to remain as the
Churches pastor. While in the background a handful of members
undermine his position and are asking for his removal.
- Another Eternity Christian Church Opens
- The Ipswich (Queensland) Potter's House is the
latest to Church to a line with the David Vicary's re-branded Eternity
Christian Church. The Grand Opening of the Ipswich Eternity Christian Church
was on 15th Jan-09. Pastor Marius Crisan invited Phil Glossop (recently
resigned Potter's House Pastor) as the guest speaker at the grand opening.
- What Happened in the Beechboro Land Deal? -
- Where is Brian Morris?
- That's the question on every ones lips in the
Potter's House Christian Fellowship of Australia. It appears that Morris has
taken his relocation money to plant a new Potter's House church and flown the
coop with the money!
- 1st Service for Eternity Christian Church
- 266 was official count, David Vicary spoke
graciously, did not bad mouth The Potter's House or Wayman Mitchell at all.
- More Pastors Resign Over David Vicary's Removal
O'Donoghue and Phil Glossop have resigned and left
The Potter's House Christian Fellowship of Australia in protest of Wayman
Mitchell's unfair sacking of David Vicary.
- Pastor resigns his Church from the Potter's House
Christian Fellowship Ministries over the David Vicary saga
- The church formally known as The Potter's
House Christian Centre, Annerley, Queensland has closed and its Pastor formally
resigned from The Potter's House Christian Fellowship of Australia in a letter
of protest to Wayman Mitchell for the unfair sacking of David Vicary. Pastor
John Pichugin and his wife Lorraine have removed themselves from the headship
and leadership of Wayman Mitchell and The Potter's House Christian Fellowship
of Australia and the church has been closed. It is reported that John and
Lorraine have relocated to the Perth area to assist David Vicary in the launch
of his new ministry "Eternity Christian Church" due to open on the 1st Feb-09
- David Vicary resigns The Potter's House Christian
- Amid the recent turmoil of December-08 as
David Vicary was sacked as the leader of the Australian Potter's House
Christian Fellowship leader, he has now resigned from the Australian Potter's
House Christian Fellowship and will start his own denomination with all the
disaffected people from the Perth Potter's House. In an inaugural church
service to be held on Sunday morning, 1st February 2009 at the YMCA Morley
Sport and Recreation Centre, Cnr Wellington Road & Mangini Street, Morley,
David Vicary announce his intentions and plans to form a new church.
- December-08 / January-09
- David Vicary sacked as leader of the Australian
Potter's House Christian Fellowship -
Opening the Doors of Hell in India
- The only problem is, Campbell White, the firm
that Haywood works for, is not a multinational company at all. Or, if it is,
itís certainly a very strange one. What Iíve managed to find out is that
Campbell White is effectively a front for a far right Christian cult, and is
far from the image being spun by Haywood and the media. This will take a
little explaining, but itís well worth it.
Click Here to read
- Dead Pastor's Past Haunts Church
- "That's not Christianity. We're definitely not
a cult. We're free to come and go and do what we want" - Scott McGrath -
Click Here to read more.
- Pastor regretted 'cult' links
- The widow of
slain former Hamilton preacher Richard Watson says he had grown to regret his
actions as the leader of an anti-gay Christian "cult" The Potter's House which
was based in the city through the 1980s and 1990s. -
Click Here to read more.
- Murder Victim Was Anti-Gay Preacher
The man stabbed at a Perth party 12 days ago was
an anti-gay former preacher at a Hamilton evangelical church.
Phillip Arthur Ranga, 35, of Ngaruawahia, is in custody charged with murdering
52-year-old Richard Andrew Watson at a party in the Perth suburb of Embleton
on April 20. Ranga has made three court appearances and, through his lawyer
Terry Dobson, said he plans to defend the charges.
Click Here to read more.
- Lankford Guilty Verdict: Reaction from Church Pastor
- One of the pastors of the church that Kirk
Lankford attended says he's not surprised by the verdict -- in fact he feels
Pastor Don Taylor also gave us some insight into how Lankford's wife is doing.
since she declined to do an interview.
Click Here to read more
- PERTH CONFERENCE 2008 ANNOUNCEMENTS
Christchurch, NZ Andrew & Ruth Brown (Strathpine, Qld)
Whakatane, NZ Michael & Glenda Collier (Rotorua, NZ)
Brisbane, Qld Marius & Lydia Crisan (Beechboro, WA)
Charlestown, NSW Peter & Fiona Edwards (Beechboro, WA)
Canning, WA Ross & Karen Barcham (Beechboro, WA)
Brisbane, Qld Tim & Belinda Hughes (Maylands, WA)
Toowoomba, Qld Steve & Robyn Scott (Townsville, Qld)
Sydney, NSW Scott & Anna Maclean (Bunbury, WA)
Pt Moresby, PNG Steve & Sharon Acres from Klemzig, SA
South Auckland, NZ Dean & Lisa Thompson from South Auckland, NZ
Kalgoorlie, WA Vergil & Lee Licero from Kalgoorlie, WA
Edwardstown, SA Andrew & Melissa Toft from Prospect, SA
Para Hills, SA Albert & Silvia Francesca from Edwardstown, SA
Newcastle, NS Peter & Adelina Staples from Chennai, India
Klemzig, SA Mike & Jan Butler from Port Moresby, PNG
Beechboro, WA (redirection) John & Janie Coutet from Noble Park, Vic
Beechboro, WA Glenn & Jessica Plummer Assisting Ministries
Rod & Tyanne Gibson Parramatta, NSW from South Auckland, NZ
Butch & Jay Lassey Beechboro, WA from Kalgoorlie, WA
Darren & Jill Gimm Beechboro, WA from Beechboro, WA
- Harold Warner: Battling Cancer Second Time Around
- For those who are unaware Harold Warner is
battling cancer for the second time. Reports from the Tucson Potter's House
indicate that the cancer has retuned as a tumour on one of his kidneys.
- Long Standing Member of Walthamstow Potter's House
Shown the Front Door
- Recently a long standing member of the
Walthamstow Potter's House CFC had the temerity to question Pastor Nigel Brown
about the finances of the Church. Brown did not take these questions too well
and recent reports confirm that the brother in question has since departed
(asked to leave).
- www.habakkuk2-4.com Hacked and Closed Down
- Naboth (who runs the UK version of the Cracked
Pots) must have really ticked off some important people!
- Editorial by Ken Haining:
I call this the attack of the hypocrites. The
fellowship of Wayman O. would be the first to scream with a primal scream if
anyone tried to take away their freedom of speech. But like all special
interest groups, they believe in freedom of speech, and of the written word,
only for themselves. While they will rail against ex members from their public
pulpits, they will use the governmental system to shut down anyone who tries
to expose them whenever they can. Scientology does the same thing. They cannot
fight on a level playing field. The can't come on the internet and refute what
we say about them because what we say is so obviously true. Why should a
pastor care if someone exposes how much money he actually gets from the church
if he is a good and honest man? I hope those who were assaulted by these
religious lunatics over there in London will take legal action against
them. The fellowship certainly has no problem using the system against people
when they can. Time to turn the tables.
- Shalom to those who expose "Christian
Fellowship Ministries," so called.
- Potter's House Bible Study Leader Arrested for
Murder - Click Here
- Jack Rokobuta Passed Away From Cancer
- During his time in the Australian Potter's
House he was involved in the "Fiji fiasco." Although he was in the Potter's
House, we at the Cracked Pots sorrow at his death at a fairly early age.
- Andrew Purchase leaves the Potter's House Australian
- At that March-07 Conference Andrew announced
that he and his family were leaving the Potter's House to the Fellowship
Leaders. Andrew was shunned, mocked, disowned and collectively the entire
Potter's House conference body turned their backs on the Andrew. Andrew and
his family have now moved to North Queensland to take up and associate pastors
position with an A.o.G. congregation.
- Ross Hounslow's Court Appeal Dismissed
- HOUNSLOW (Potters House, Bunbury, WA) v
WOODWARD - BC200700433
Western Australian Supreme Court
SJA 1074 of 2005
24 March 2006, 9 February 2007
 This is an appeal from the decision of a Magistrate at the Joondalup
Magistrates Court on 22 June 2005 convicting the appellant of the offence of
failing to give personal details when requested to do so, contrary to s16(6)
of the Criminal Investigation (Identifying People) Act 2002 ("the Act").
Following conviction the appellant was fined $400 and a spent conviction order
was made pursuant to s 45 of the Sentencing Act 1945.
 I have concluded that there is no merit in the matters raised on behalf
of the appellant which are said to establish error on the part of the
Magistrate, other than his conclusion with respect the burden of proof for
establishing a defence of "reasonable excuse" under s 16(6) of the Act.
However, in my view, this error did not result in a miscarriage of justice. I
consider the appellant to have been properly convicted, and I would dismiss
Counsel for the appellant: Mr S W O'Sullivan
Counsel for the respondent: Mr T C Russell
Solicitors for the appellant: Young & Young
Solicitors for the respondent: State Solicitor's Office
From George to the current Potters House members:
Look where your money is going. This guy, one of your pastors, breaks the law
deliberately and then goes through the courts defending himself, spending YOUR
money in the process. Look all those legal professionals that he is funding
with YOUR money: two solicitors plus two barristers. In
the Local Court, perhaps one day plus in the Supreme Court on two occasions.
Those guys don't charge $20 per hour, can assure you of that. Solicitor's fees
are most likely in the order of $300 PER HOUR and barrister's fee is in the
order of $2,000 PER DAY.
Ask your pastor how much money has his church contributed to the poor, both,
within your church and in the community in general.
- PERTH CONFERENCE 2007 ANNOUNCEMENTS
- NEW INTERNATIONAL
Uitenhage, South Africa Stephen and Kaye O'Donoghue (Beechboro)
North Chennai, India Peter and Adelina Staples (Busselton)
NEW AUSTRALIAN CHURCHES
Sutherland, NSW Sean and Jessica Geaney (Darwin)
Strathfield, NSW Chris and Marzia Razmovski (Ramsgate)
Penrith, NSW Jay and Esther Hounslow (Beechboro)
Brisbane, Qld Brian and Joanne Morris (Beechboro)
Southport, Qld Stewart and Anne Bramich (Stratpine)
Mirrabooka, WA George and Mary Ouma (Victoria)
Beechboro, WA Daryl and Jillian Elliott
Busselton, WA Jeff and Bev Baker
South Chennai, India Paul and Annie Vincent
Nadi, Fiji Koli and Sala Raiwal
Kali Malang, Indonesia Ophar and Betty Sinambela
Strathpine, Qld Raynor and Natasha Gunton
Ndola, Zambia John and Belinda Janman
Henderson, New Zealand Ron and Kerry Chisholm
Ballarat, Vic Ben and Rajes Shenton
Thomastown, Vic Jad and Sydney Baroud
Manjimup, WA Nathan and Emily Seinemier
Beechboro, WA (Returning Missionaries) Craig and Helen Newton
Beechboro, WA (Assisting Ministries) Peter and Fiona Edwards
Beechboro, WA (Redirection) Alex and Robin Smilovitis
Beechboro, WA (Outreach Director) Marius and Lydia Crisan
Dandenong, Vic Mark and Cheryl Underwood
Geelong, Vic Paul and Trudy Battochio
Fairfield, NSW James and Donna Blair
- The Return of Mike Mastin to Australia
- Well... here is the latest! Mastin is taking
over or joining a network of churches with in the AoG called "Imagine".
The "mother church" is in Burwood (Melbourne) and is a big as (if not bigger)
the Perth PH. It has a network of 4 small churches through the out the
Melbourne suburbs and country Victoria.
I can't see Mastin relocating to Australia to take over some small Christian
discussion group in Smith St. Collingwood that meets in the back room of a
community centre! No... my guess is he is taking over the Burwood church from
Ps Melinda Dwight who has been there for many years and once again Mike Mastin
will have his own fellowship (or Network).
I think he will try and draw in the local New Destiny boys (Russo & Letcher)
and then move Australia wide to the ex PH pastors and there congregations and
those that will leave Vicary's empire (when Mastin returns) and ultimately
Wayman O's clutches
I think there will be a price to pay for all this... but who will be the one
who gets the bill? Will it be Mastin as he rolls the dice and gambles on a win
(I can just imagine what he has told the AoG and the promises he has made) or
will it be Vicary who will be toppled in the midst of political activity as
his empire shrinks and moves to Mastin and the AoG. Or will Vicary strike a
deal with Mastin and they both shaft Mitchell in one foul swoop?
- Albany (USA) pastor charged with hitting his son, 13
The pastor of Potterís House in Albany was in the Benton County jail this
morning, charged with allegedly hitting his son.
The pastor, David Lee Fink, 47, is charged with second-degree assault and
first-degree criminal mistreatment in connection with an incident Monday
afternoon with his 13-year-old son.
Bail was set at $55,000. His first court appearance was set for 1:20 p.m. this
afternoon in Benton Circuit Court.
Police Capt. Eric Carter said Fink, who lives in North Albany, is alleged to
have struck the child 10 times with a 16-inch-long wooden paddle wrapped in
duct tape. The child was hit in the buttocks, thighs and arm.
After allegedly hitting the child, Fink went to the Potterís House at Second
Avenue and Main Street, where police arrested him around 4:50 p.m.
Police found him there after another family member notified authorities.
- The Return of Mike Mastin to Australia?
- Recently it was rumoured that Mike Mastin was
returning to Australia. In 2006 Mastin preached for various Assembly of God (AoG)
churches on the East Coast of Australia and the possibility of him taking a (AoG)
church at that time was raised. To read more -
- Extract from the Register of Charities in UK -
Extract from the Central Register of
Charities maintained by the Charity Commission for England and Wales
The Potters House Christian Fellowship Walthamstow Charity Correspondent: Nigel
Governing Document: Constitution Adopted On 12 December 1997
Objects (of the Charity):
A: The advancement of the Christian religion in accordance with the statement of
beliefs set out in the first schedule and in particular in the London borough of
Waltham Forest and at the discretion of the church council elsewhere in the
United Kingdom or the world.
B: The relieve of poverty and sickness regardless of nationality, religious,
political or other opinion in the said London borough and at the discretion of
the church council elsewhere in the United Kingdom or the world. Area of
Operation: Charity Operates in locations in England and Wales
Income and Expenditure in Pounds Sterling (Australian Dollar in Brackets)
Income 388,710 ($962,103.54 AUD)
Expenditure 419,579 ($1,038,540.64
Income 463,342 ($1,146,956.93 AUD)
Expenditure 397,815 ($984,712.67 AUD)
Income 584,702 ($1,447,516.46 AUD)
Expenditure 483,476 ($1,197,099.66 AUD)
Income 612,857 ($1,517,080.40 AUD)
Expenditure 491,328 ($1,216,244.70 AUD)
Income 740,173 ($1,832,033.53 AUD)
Expenditure 613,059 ($1,517,695.59 AUD)
Income 811,295 ($2,008,230.93 AUD)
Expenditure 658,445 ($1,629,908.63 AUD)
- Daniel is Free!
- From George Potkonyak
- My youngest son, Daniel is out of the Potters
House - except when he wants to go. Just came back from the Family Court with
the above orders under the belt. From now on, Daniel, who just turned 14, will
be spending 50% of time with me and 50% time with his mother - unless he, from
time to time, or in the future, decides to do otherwise. Finally, Daniel has
been recognised as a person in his own right!
In order to stop Walsh, or anyone else, interfering with Daniel's wishes the
mother and I were ordered NOT TO harass, intimidate or coerce Daniel into
attending or not attending any church.
I am quite pleased with the result, even though I would prefer and outright
ban on Daniel's association with the Potters House. Nevertheless, considering
that Daniel hasn't succumbed to Mr Walsh's brainwashing, I am quite content
with the orders. I know that Walsh and his zombies will try to exert pressure
on Daniel. If that happens I will have to resort to the AVO from the local
court. It will be easy. There is already a precedent involving the Potters
So... Let's give Daniel a resounding welcome to the land of the living!!!
FYO, my oldest son Jacob, after a "rollercoaster ride" re the Potters House,
is also out of it for good!!! He just turned 18.
Now, all you prayer warriors, have my daughter Esther in your prayers. Special
thanks to my friend who sent me David Vicary's "sermon" on forced marriages in
the fellowship. An incredibly valuable evidence in my battle for Esther!!! -
and, perhaps, beyond that. There is a new law in Australia concerning the
"arranged" (read "forced") marriages. A penalty of up to 25 years in jail for
those proven to use psychological force in coercing them into marriage.
Haven't studies the details yet.
Shalom to you all, this thirteenth day of July 2006!!!
Signing off, from Baulkham Hills, in the State of New South Wales, Australia,
- Changes at Wollongong (NSW)
- Post March-06 Conference shuffle: Darryl
Munckton (now ex Pastoral Assistant - Beechboro Perth) has taken over the
Wollongong (NSW) Potter's House. There is no word about Aaron
Henley-Martin the former pastor of Wollongong.
- Hobart Mercury
A WOMAN who repeatedly breached a court restraining order by
going back to the church which had thrown her out was sentenced yesterday to
56 hours of community service orders. Launceston magistrate Zygmunt Szramka
told Ann Stevenson, 55, of Evandale, he could not understand her behaviour.
Stevenson had admitted returning to her former church, the Potters House, and
making telephone calls to family members of the Potters House pastor, Michael
White. She had been thrown out of the church in January, 1996, and a
restraining order was issued against her in the Launceston Magistrates Court
- Pastor Mike
"Batman" White has been stood down from the
Potter's House, Launceston, Tasmania
As is usual for most Potter's House pastors, when a couple left his church he
set about slandering them. The mistake he made was that this couple moved to
another state and continued attending a Potter's House church. When the
questions got asked about the accuracy of what he was saying the lies were
- PERTH CONFERENCE ANNOUNCEMENTS 2006
- NEW INTERNATIONAL
Mossel Bay, Sth Africa ... out of Darwin: Peter and Kerri
Honiara, Solomon Islands ... out of Beechboro: Ross and Alison Elford
Nadi, Fiji ... out of Beechboro: Jack and Ann-Marie Rokobuta
Onehunga, New Zealand ... out of Thomastown: Geoff and Miriam Stowers
Beechboro ... Evangelism: Mick and Debbie Listing
Beechboro ... Evangelism: Jeff and Bev Baker
Parramatta ... Evangelism: Alex and Clarissa Lorkin
Armadale ... out of Beechboro: Terry and Denise Sleight
Campbelltown, Sydney NSW ... out of Beechboro: Kevin and Karla Sims
Beechboro ... redirection ... out of Geelong: Craig and Janine Thomas
Geelong ... out of Footscray: Mark and Cheryl Underwood
Alice Springs ... out of Ramsgate, Sydney: Steve and Michelle Kennaway
Ramsgate ... merging Cronulla, Sydney: Chris and Skye Plummer
Fremantle ... out of Geraldton: Glen and Sandra Anderson
Melbourne ... out of Footscray: Jad and Sydney Baroud
NEW AUSTRALIAN CHURCHES
Brisbane, Qld ... out of Beechboro: Leonell and Jody Leota
Brisbane, Qld ... out of Beechboro: Brock and Tammy Aberle
Tweed Heads/Coolangatta Qld ... out of Lismore: Travis and Wendy Fredericks
Liverpool, Sydney NSW ... out of Darwin: Nathan and Alisha Prosser
Maitland, NSW ... out of Newcastle: Gavin and Jody Spruce
Modbury, Adelaide SA ... out of Alice Springs: Ben and Sarah Clark
Mawson Lakes, Adelaide SA ... out of Prospect: Mark and Kelly Lassey
Boronia, Melb, Vic ... out of Footscray: Fritz and Claudia Helg
Esperance, WA ... out of Busselton: Justin and Clare Swannell
- PERTH CONFERENCE ANNOUNCEMENTS 2005
- NEW INTERNATIONAL
Port Elizabeth, South Africa ... Ross and Judy Hounslow (Beechboro)
Bangalore, India .... Vinod and Rosita Kumar (Footscray)
Scotland ... Ron and Kerry Chisholm (Busselton)
Blantyre, Malawi ... Wayne and Sue Norford (Alice Springs)
NEW NATIONAL CHURCHES
Edwardstown, (Adelaide, Sth Aust) ... out of Prospect, SA, Albert and Silvia Francesca
Caboolture (Brisbane) ... out of Strathpine, QLD, Andrew and Ruth Brown
Toombul (Brisbane) ... out of Strathpine, QLD, Chris and Tweet Dodd
Willetton, (Perth) ... out of Beechboro, WA, Kevin and Karla Sims
Nth Jakarta ... out of Pulomas, Jakarta, Opar and Betty Sinambela
Evangelism ... out of Beechboro, WA, Ross and Karen Barcham
Evangelism ... Terry and Denise Sleight (Beechboro)
Albury/ Wodonga, NSW ... out of Alice Springs, John and Robin Goodwin
Bunbury, WA ... Brian and Angie Roennfeldt (Beechboro)
Perth City, WA ... out of Beechboro, Trevor and Priscilla Fong
Norwood, SA ... out of Alice Springs, Steve and Sharon Acres
Lismore, NSW ... Greg and Debbie Haagensen (Geraldton)
Cronulla, NSW ... Chris and Skye Plummer (Beechboro)
Maylands, WA ... out of Beechboro, Steve and Silvia Zapata
- CFM Biographer Permanently Banned From Preaching!
We have confirmed from multiple sources that Wayman Mitchell has permanently banned Ian
Wilson from preaching in any CFM churches worldwide.
Until recently, Wilson had been suspended from preaching for six months by Mitchell and
the Board of Elders from charges of public disagreement. Wilson had been very vocal in
defending Marty Carnegie and disagreeing with Mitchell's actions in the way he handled
that incident in 2003. Wilson's dissent was viewed by Mitchell as insubordination and
rebellion to headship, thus he was suspended from preaching in July 2004.
Mitchell had come to the recent decision to permanently banned Wilson based upon his
unwillingness to submit to his current demands before he could be reinstated to preach.
One of Mitchell's preposterous requirements was that Wilson would have to uproot his
family from Canada and move to Prescott to prove his loyalty and submission to leadership.
Wilson rebuffed Mitchell's daft demands and received the consequences of his seditious
Wilson who served CFM as a evangelist, was also an author who wrote three books for the
fellowship - Unto The Ends of the Earth, In Pursuit of Destiny, and Mitchell and His Men.
The books were sold throughout CFM attempting to clarify Mitchell's vision and revised
CFM's unflattering history.
- CFM Missionary Pastor Defrocked!
- Eric Wright who pastored the CFM church in Soweto, South Africa was
defrocked for alleged moral and financial violations. CFMs area leadership in South
Africa investigated the evidence of misappropriated funds for personal benefit and moral
indiscretions with female church members.
- Unfortunately, this is the same congregation that was formerly
pastored by David Drum two pastors removed in less than two years time.
- At this time, Wright has been sent back to Prescott, Arizona
- CFM Evangelist Preaches Revival In
The Midst of Divorce Proceedings!
- We have confirmed from our sources that Wayman Mitchell and Paul
Stephens have once again made a poor choice in their handling of the ministry. They have
consistently chosen for the preservation of CFM rather for the restoration of people. Such
is the case of CFM evangelist, David Drum. Drum had recently become an evangelist after
being a missionary in Soweto, South Africa, out of the El Paso church pastored by Paul
Stephens. Having marriage problems during their ministerial appointments, known by
Stephens, Mitchell and Scott Lamb these issues have now manifested in both husband and
wife during their ministry years. Nevertheless, the couple did not receive competent,
spiritual and marital help from qualified professionals in their time of great need.
- Now, after years of spiritual malpractice by CFM leadership, another
marriage is dissolving.
- On October 12th, 2004, Drum filed for divorce, before a confrontation
with his wife in Paul Stephens office later on that day. The office meeting was a
disaster, which led to the couple to separate. Mitchell was contacted letting him know
Drums marital situation and wanted counsel if he should still conduct meetings.
Astonishingly, Mitchell gave Drum permission to continue ministering, and he preached a
revival October 15th 20th in Safford, Arizona, despite being in the midst of divorce
- Sadly, we are seeing another CFM tragedy unfolding before
- Pastor Charged Over Shop Carolling Incident - Click Here
- Pastor Charged in Shopping Centre Carols
Stoush - Click Here
- The Latest From The Rumor Mill
- 1. The Beechboro church has had a new face-lift with new
carpets and a new paint job. The only problem is that most of the congregation don't like
the dark blue carpets and black curtains (behind the stage area) with the exposed beams
also painted black. Rumor has it that a few people were complaining to Pastor Vicary
saying there church looks to Gothic...next day Pastor Vicary announced on stage that
people should keep there comments to them selves as his wife and a decorator planned this
carefully...(more likely it was just Christine as well all know what she wants she gets).
2. Rumor has it also that Pastor Vicary sermons in the last couple of weeks have been
aimed at certain church members from self-indulgence to mammon. A good couple in church
just recently bought a very expense car and few weeks later Pastor Vicary illustrated in a
sermon about how people today are falling into the spirit of self mammon by buying
expenses cars and etc etc....(but its ok for him to drive brand new rav 4 and dine out for
dinner nearly ever night with his family and to have free dental and medical cover and
Christine always goes away with him when he preaches every time...and of course all paid
by church funds...
3. Also rumor has it from a former British pastor now living in Perth, that in a few
months theirs going to be a big break away from some Australian and British pastors just
like a couple years ago
4. And last rumor
. Pastor Vicary has also told his congregation that his wife cant
be friends to everyone in church so don't hassle her or get upset if she and her family
cant come to your place for dinner
(looks like the purple circle is back).
- What the CFM pastors are doing while the rest of you are work
- Full-time CFM pastors can dictate how you should work your job
and then spend every other waking hour doing work for the church but the fact is, they go
to morning prayer and then go home and rest and sometimes take nap. They preach three
times a week and stay home all day during the week. The goal of every CFM pastor is to go
"full time." I wonder why?
Next time you exhausted disciples feel like you can't do one more thing and are on the
verge of physical collapse, think about your leaders relaxing at the local coffee store
and chatting with their friends. It will do you a world of good.
- Greg Mitchell Returns to Prescott
- In keeping with his promise of more changes coming to CFM,
Wayman Mitchell has announced this past Sunday morning that his son, Greg Mitchell, is
leaving South Africa and coming to assist in the Prescott church. Questions are swirling
around in Prescott why Mitchell is making these changes now when the Winter Bible
Conference is only about 10 weeks away, when traditionally announcements and appointments
like these are made. We will keep you updated as more information becomes available.
- Update - The CFM cannot be founded here in Flagstaff Arizona
- Well my jubilation was pre-mature. The Door is still
here just at a new location. So, what is it-- 4 pastors and now 6 "new"
locatons (grand openings)... But last I checked thay had only less than ten people--
and that is for ten years.
- The CFM cannot be founded here in Flagstaff Arizona (USA).
- 10 years, 1 month and 2 weeks, 4 "pastors, and 5 rental
storefronts later-- it seems that Mitch has finally seen the light and come to
therealization that his stinking rotten cult (Flagstaff Christian Fellowship [INC] "A
Fellowship where Jesus is still working) cannot befounded here in Flagstaff.
Over ten years of spiritual waste. Lives not saved but wasted. Inoculated against the
Gospel. They never had a congregation greater than a dozen, usually 5 to 10 persons.
And these people lasted usually less than a year. The "burn out rate" was
high and all the people that they went in and out, worse than they were before they went
A "church" that lives by the law dies by the law... And when at their inception
in 1994 they sued me and 5 of my friends for picket protests they aborted themselves.
- And we (those that they sued, the founders of Life After
Potter's House) were waiting for them to get large enough to picket again, but they died
on their own-- without any pickets from us.
"We will see who is standing when the dust clears" David Diver said in
1994 to Kenneth Haywood, the first "pastor" of Flagstaff Christian Fellowship
[INC]. And Mr. Haywood had the audacity to launch a lawsuit sponsored by Wayman
(greater than Moses) against us for that statement and other ones that he fabricated and
attributed to us.
- Well ? Who is standing ?
- The Lord Jesus works in mysterious ways.
But we will be keeping our eyes and ears open should this demonically inspired
"fellowship" raise its ugly head again here in Flagstaff. Sometimes such devils
have seven heads.
BTW Wayman O. Mitchell-- If you are such a "great man o'god" and "greater
than Moses"-- how about if YOU come to Flagstaff and pioneer one of your
"works" ? Instead you send lackys out to do your dirty
"work" and when they fail you call them back for "redirection."
How about if YOU redirect YOURSELF and come out and do a "pioneer" work here in
Flagstaff. Rent a house, get a low wage job, spend a year or two, and I will bet the
Lord will send you back to Prescott for your own "redirection."
The Truth will be told...
- Returning to The Potter's House - Parramatta
- Click Here
- New Apparel, Baby Goods, Homewares,
and a Range of Stuff - Click Here
- Hope, scepticism surround 'healer' - Click Here
The Door: A Church or a Cult?
- Follow Up -
The Door: A Church or a Cult? - Click
- News from the Fiji Potter's House
- "There were about 10 cell groups when I was at
Potters House [in Fiji] with the leadership of Pastor John Brown. When Pastor Brown left
for Australia, Pastor Perry took over. When he took over 6 of the leaders left Potters
House. 3 of the leaders have backslidden, 3 leaders are continuing in other churches,
scores of young youths have left the church. From a packed building under Pastor Brown,
Potters house was reduced to almost a quarter under pastor Perry." (name
- Editorial Comments by:
George Potkonyak firstname.lastname@example.org
- The above is a testimony of the
"selection process" that is taking place in the fellowship. The anointed ones,
those that refuse to bow to man and lie, are leaving while the spiritual and moral
cripples are being promoted. One doesn't need to be Einstein to see where the fellowship
is heading to. No wonder Mitchell's latest "pattern" is that one doesn't have to
hear from God in order to take up a ministry in his kingdom. Nobody in his right mind, who
really hears from God, would volunteer to be a zombie.
- The Court Decision on Russo vs. Tilli Case
The case is over and Russo won but the catch is that even though Russo won the
right on the money (for unfair dismissal) that the fellowship owes him.... he can't get it
since the Footscray Potters House (Melbourne) is not an incorporated body.
- The Official & Unofficial
Conference News from the Potter's House Website
- Western Australia
Joondalup .....Chris and Christine Mearns
Leederville.....John and Karen Kotis
Midland.........Bob and Megan Matthews
Mandurah......Jeff and Carlene Haagenson
Rockingham...Graeme and Tammy Donavan
Brunswick.....Gino and Liz Marinars
Croydon.......John and Jenny Coutet
St Albans......David and Cathy Curwin-Walker
New South Wales
Hornsby....Alex and Cherise McCann
Penrith......James and Donna Blair
- Other Anounncments not on the Perth Website
- Returning from Mozambique ........ Jad and Sydney Baroud
- Into Mozambique ........... Simon & Kim Tutera
- Into Preston (Melbourne, Victoria) ........... Bruce
"laces" & Mandy Wheatley
- Rockhampton Potter's House Closed Down
- Reliable sources have confirmed that David Vicary has closed
down the Rockhampton (Queensland) Potter's House because of stagnating numbers. The church
had been "in business" for 14 years and had approximately 20 members.
- Is Perth Splitting from the CFM?
- Rumours have been rife for the last 12 months that David
Vicary is about to pull the Perth Potter's House Church from the CFM. - Click Here
- Church Takes Landlord to Task - Fiji
By Imran Ali
A complaint has been lodged against the Public Employees Union for forcefully entering a
church after the pastor failed to open the door for repair works to be carried out.
Potters House Christian Church pastor John Perry lodged a complaint at the Central Police
Station against union general secretary Mereseini Rakai and her officials on Monday night.
The church rents the top floor of the PEU building at Edinburgh Drive in Suva. Mr. Perry
said Ms. Rakai had demanded that they church open the building for union workers to carry
out repair works at about 4:30 pm on Monday. He said when he refused to leave the premises
open at such short notice, she threatened that union employees would cut the lock on the
front entrance of the building to gain access. He said when he arrived at 9:30 pm, he
discovered the front entrance cut and two large windows by the roadside removed. "We
are more than happy to accommodate the upgrading of the premises," Mr. Perry said.
"But to have the union demand access at a moments notice and for them to then take
the liberty of breaking into the building without our permission is totally
unacceptable," he said. But Ms. Rakai said that as landlord, they had the right to
enter the top floor to carry out renovation work as contained in the tenancy agreement.
"We rang him yesterday afternoon (Monday) to open the door to enable our carpenters
to enter the top floor which they are renting to remove the old windows and fit in the new
ones which he refused," she said. "Several attempts were made whereby we have to
visit his home for him to open the door but he continued to refuse."
Ms.Raikai said that in April, the union gave the church notice to vacate, as they owed
$30,800 in rental arrears. The crime officer at CPS confirmed receiving a report
that investigations were under way.
- November -03
- Old News Story on Footscray Potter's
House (Vic) Resurfaces - Click here
- Another CFM Pastor Defrocked!
October 20th, 2003 - Keith Nicely has been forced to
resigned as pastor of the Guam church over the revelation of his alleged viewing of
Internet pornography. Wayman O. Mitchell, President and CEO of Christian Fellowship
Churches, Inc. flew to Guam, and personally made the announcement of Nicely's resignation
at this past Wednesday night's service. Church members were shocked and sadden by the
divulgence of the pastor's moral failure.
Keith Nicely had been pastoring the Guam church for about 16 years and had been conference
speaker at the Prescott Bible Conferences every year since 1994. Mitchell has arranged for
Glen Cluck to come to Guam to minister to the wounded sheep and there is speculation that
he might take over the Guam church, but we have not confirmed that as of this date..
Reportedly, the Nicely's are preparing to go back to Prescott for redirection and
- CFM Pastor Defrocked!
- Friday 26th September, 2003 - Steve Brazell a.k.a.
Troothsayer, was removed from pastoring the church, The Door of Glendale, Arizona last
night. Details and evidence surrounding his removal from the pulpit, stem from the
abundance of documentation proving moral violations involving his use of the Internet,
e-mail and telephone were presented to Wayman O. Mitchell, President and CEO of Christian
Fellowship Churches, Inc. Evidence sent to the_slammos, concur that his removal from the
ministry is justified. Brazell approached women on the Slam The Door - Yahoo Groups
message board making unwanted advances via private e-mail.
Brazell has reportedly made some private confession of repentance and is going to
re-submit himself to CFM's "headship" for correction and redirection. In a
statement to the_slammos, Connie Stubbs expressed her remorse and asked for forgiveness
again for her role in the matter. As more information becomes available, we will keep you
- Charisma News Service: CFM Causes Turmoil in a
- Cracked Pots Shut Down!
- It would appears that the CFM has had its
feathers ruffled over and article on Wayman Mitchell and his "sexually active
minions" (now withdrawn from the site) which has drawn complains by the Potter's
House CMF to Geocities and Yahoo. Thanks "Howard
the Coward" for your gutless
attempts to suppress the truth, but we will live on to expose the hypocrisy and lies of
- "Dogs & Perverts"???
- If has been brought to our attention, that the "Dogs
& Perverts" report, though verified, seems to be untrue. Apparently no
evidence of this appears on the Monday night tape, and it may just be a lurkers ploy to
discredit "the cracked pots". We make every attempt to verify all reports made
to us prior posting. We apologise to you the reader and have remove this new report from
our website until further notice.
- Vicary "Blasted" at Recent Prescott
- Reports have come back from the Winter 2003
Prescott Conference (albeit late) that David Vicary was "blasted" and severely
mocked by Ray Ruby from the pulpit. Vicary preached his conference sermon on "being
led by the Spirit" and "not relying on pattern". Ray Rubi (one of Wayman
Mitchell's well known "Whips") announced to the conference body that "he
doesn't trust anyone who says they are led by the Spirit..." It is common knowledge
through out the US (CFM) fellowship (and now in the Australian Potter's House) that
approve of Vicary being the Australian leader.
- Perth Conference Announcements (from the spy)
- Thursday Night
- India - Peter and Adelina Staples.
- South Africa - Neil & Anne Maria McCann.
- African work into Botswana (didn't catch the name).
- Peter & Kerrie Fields redirected from South Africa to
- Friday Night
- Tom Billington (from Albury NSW)- Townsville, Queensland
(Taking over from Bill & Suzy McIntosh - redirected to Darwin Church).
- Daniel & Paulina Anderson (from Footscray Vic) -
- New Couple (didn't catch the name) from Thomastown Vic to
take over Albury NSW.
- New Couple (didn't catch the name) from Parramatta NSW to
take over the Staples Church.
- New Couple (didn't catch the name) from Launceston Tasmania
into Hobart Tasmania.
- David Vicary announced that he will not be taking on a
new assistant but will have Alan O'Donghue fill in
while he is away.
- An out of conference announcement is that Mark & Cheryl
Underwood (now ex. Macau) are being redirected into Footscray. One rumour has Mark
Underwood as Anthony Tilli's assistant. Why does Tilli need an assistant and Vicary
- Another Open Letter from Rudy van Dierman
- Exposing the Pastor's Contract - Click here
- CFM on the "Farside"
- Wacky pictures from someone with to much time
on their hands! Click
- Greg Mitchell Grows "Weed"! Click here
- "New Destiny" - Mini Conference Amsterdam Holland!
- Rudy van Diermen, Ferry Entong, Chris Alarm and Dale Reece are
coming together for a Mini conference in Amsterdam Holland. Starting 6th of March until
the 9th of March 2003. Click here to see the brochure.
- Open letter to the Dutch Pastors - Rudy van Dierman
- It looks like Rudy is responding the the situation in Surimane.
Click here to read the letter
- More Churches
Break Away From The Potter's House / CFM
- The Church in Suriname, Paramaribo has left the CFM and has
taken 3 baby churches. Click here to read the letter of
resignation. Suriname (formerly Dutch
Guyana) is a small Republic on the North-East coast of South America. Nearly all the
churches there have been planted out of the Dutch Fellowship under Rudy van Dierman.
- Dale "New Destiny" Reece to preach and
hold meeting in the Netherlands
Dale Reece from South Africa - Capetown is preaching and holding meetings for Chris
Alarm in the Netherlands Mid April 2003. Chris Alarm and his Church (including several
other in the Netherlands) recently pull out of the CFM / Potter's House. Chris is also one
of Rudy van Dierman's disciples. Exciting times we live in, isn't,t it..??
- Rudy van Dierman to attend "New
Destiny" Yuma Arizona Conference 2003
- Reports are coming out of South Africa that
Rudy, his wife and several of his close friends will be attending the Yuma Arizona
Conference of Bill Coolidge in March 2003.
- Jon Spurgeon's resignation letter - Click Here
- Dale Reece preaching Revival meetings in Pretoria
- It did not take long for
Rudy van Diermen to live up to his words and make contact with old friends that had left
the Potter's House / CFM. Rudy has booked Dale Reece to preach in the Pretoria Church. It
was Reece that left the CFM (with his Church in South Africa) some years ago now and
renamed his Church and Fellowship "New Destiny". In recent times many of the
Pastors and Churches that have left the CFM are also calling their Churches "New
Destiny". It has been prophesied that it will be "New Destiny" that will
rise out of the ashes of the CFM waste land. New Destiny Churches have been established in
South Africa, Australia, Europe and the USA.
- Update: Wemberly has a new look!
- New name, new look! Check it out it's
- More Churches leave in The Netherlands
- News from "klm008" informs us that as well as the 5
Churches leaving the Dutch CFM (Ferry Entong and his 4 baby churches), Last week Chris
Alarm of Utrecht has pulled his whole Church as well in the wake of the Rudy van Diermen /
Dutch Fellowship saga.
- Update: It's War in Wembley
gloves come off." "The tactic, In war there are no rules".
- That's the kind of language that is being used in the battle
for the Wembley Church. With John Spurgeon and 4 of his church plants (baby churches)
removing themselves from the Potter's House (CFM) in a clandestine manner (during the 2003
Prescott Winter Conference when all leadership was out of the country). It is reported
that Wayman Mitchell at the conference ordered David Vicary and Nigel Brown to "deal
with it". It was Nigel Brown who flew back immediately and David Vicary dealt with
the situation by remote control - over the phone. The way that Brown and Co. "dealt
with it" was to plant another church no more than 50 metres down the road - they
hired a community hall declaring that "this is the genuine Wembley Church" and
to think that you might be in the "Twilight Zone" they meet at exactly the same
times. The comments from the new or "genuine" parishioners (mainly blow-ins from
the Walthamstow Church) is that "these people need to be rescued, that is why we
opened the church up the road". In other words if some folk want to remain with the
Potter's House (CFM) then they won't be inconvenienced - it's only 50 metres up the road!
Many are saying it is more sinister than that, "the new church is there to cause
trouble of course". Already ex-members are being sent text messages on their mobile
phones asking if they "...realise their pastor (John Spurgeon) has lost the plot and
God". Other messages are along the lines of "...just get yourself back to the
New Wembley Church and save yourself from disaster by remaining in a rouge church".
We can all just see the image now, of Wayman Mitchell in his black cape and Darth Vadar
mask standing over John Spurgeon, saying... "Where is the location of your rebel
With all jocularity aside this is a huge blow to the UK
"Fellowship", which has not been effected by splits / schisms in the same manner
as the "Fellowships" in the US or Australia. When John Spurgeon arrived in the
England 8 years ago the "Fellowship" was small and mainly comprised of Aussie
Pastors of British heritage with one or two Yanks and a handful of planted Churches -
mainly out of Walthamstow and Norwich. Spurgeon not having a clear direction on arrival in
London attended the Walthamstow Church (the largest and only conference church in the UK).
The then Pastor (Peter Bayman) had a group of people from Wembley coming across Greater
London to the Walthamstow Church from a home bible study. It was not long before a
satellite church was planted and the church limped on for sometime. Over the time of that
faithful conference 8 years ago the Pastor of the Wembley church asked to be redirected
and the small group of people (who where still meeting as a bible study for all that
time), got John Spurgeon as their new Pastor. Within weeks Spurgeon moved them into a
Church building and began outreaching the Black communities and market places in the area.
It was not long before he saw exceptional results and growth. Besides Walthamstow this
growth made Wembley one of the biggest churches in the UK and gave Spurgeon a platform to
minister in conferences and as a guest speaker around the CFM world. So the reader will
note; this is no small fish that has jumped off the (CFM) hook, Spurgeon was a CFM
"poster boy", leader and heavy weight speaker in the Australian / UK
"Fellowship" and the great thing is that he was booked as a main speaker at the
Perth conference in March 2003 - Thursday night; missionary slot (and the brochures are
printed and out there)! Oh! No.
- Another Two Letters from Rudy Van
- 1. Click Here An letter to the
CFM Board to resolve the conflict
- 2. Click Here An open letter to the
CFM after being removed
- Again both letter give a great insight into the inner sanctum
and machinations of the Potter's House machine.
- A Pre-Prescott Conference Surprise - More Churches
Breakaway From The Potter's House!
- We have just confirmed that Pastor John Spurgeon of
Wembley, England has pulled his church and four of his baby churches from Christian
Fellowship Ministries. He and the four other pastors were expected to meet up at the
airport with the other CFM pastors who were on their way to attend this week's biannual
Winter CFM Bible conference in Prescott, Arizona for 2003. They were no-shows at the
airport! When they inquired the whereabouts of Pastor Spurgeon and his men, the word got
back to the jilted CFM pastors that their brethren had already flown the coup.
Spurgeon, who is a descendent of the famous and honoured preacher, Charles H.
Spurgeon, is originally from Perth, Australia. He came to England about 8 years ago after
being a part of Pastor David Vicary's church in Perth. When Wayman Mitchell heard of this
breakaway, he immediately sent the European area leader Nigel Brown back on a flight to
England, along with David Vicary in an attempt to reclaim the breakaway churches. This
developing story is rocking the CFM Bible conference's Attendees at this moment.
How many more churches? How many more pastors? Who
will be next? Stay tuned...
- Rudy Van Diermen Letter - Click Here
- It's a mammoth letter which rambles on a bit but give a great
insight into the inner sanctum and machinations of the Potter's House machine.
- Long-time members of the Footscray
- 1. Read letter to Anthony Tilli (Pastor) - Click Here
- 2. Read letter to
Anthony Tilli (Pastor) - Click Here
Last Updated - Sunday, 15 March 2009